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	<title>Comments for My informL Unworkshop </title>
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	<description>A record of the experiences and my reactions during the Unworkshop</description>
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		<title>Comment on Following up Open Space discussion by P</title>
		<link>http://infomlbunyipau.wordpress.com/2006/03/22/following-up-open-space-discussion/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 08:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opps! My mistake. Now I have to work out how that happened. Thanks for the correction.

Now that I have been pointed in the correct direction I found plenty to read at his web site http://www.openspaceworld.com/literature.htm.

One of his early works &quot;Riding the Tiger - Doing business in a transforming world&quot; which contains his Brief user guide is available as a free pdf file.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opps! My mistake. Now I have to work out how that happened. Thanks for the correction.</p>
<p>Now that I have been pointed in the correct direction I found plenty to read at his web site <a href="http://www.openspaceworld.com/literature.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.openspaceworld.com/literature.htm</a>.</p>
<p>One of his early works &#8220;Riding the Tiger &#8211; Doing business in a transforming world&#8221; which contains his Brief user guide is available as a free pdf file.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Following up Open Space discussion by jaycross</title>
		<link>http://infomlbunyipau.wordpress.com/2006/03/22/following-up-open-space-discussion/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>jaycross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Apr 2006 04:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got some bad info. The originator of Open Space is Harrison Owen. It&#039;s a great take on putting a new spin on conversation.

jay</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got some bad info. The originator of Open Space is Harrison Owen. It&#8217;s a great take on putting a new spin on conversation.</p>
<p>jay</p>
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		<title>Comment on Moving the Project into gear by Harold Jarche</title>
		<link>http://infomlbunyipau.wordpress.com/2006/03/12/moving-the-project-into-gear/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Harold Jarche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like squidoo as a resource on a single topic. Perhaps we could find a way to build a collaborative squidoo site or at least link to each other. I could do with some help on squidoo as it&#039;s just a sideline for me.

I find that the easiest aggregator to use on a personal basis is Bloglines.  You can always export your OPML file to another system if you don&#039;t like this web-based aggregator.

Not sure about delicious, as I started with Furl and now have over 600 articles Furled. Like you, I haven&#039;t really got into tagging.

I think that Elgg is a great system, but unless you host your own system, you&#039;ll have to use their free service. This is OK until you get to a point, with several hundred posts, when you want to own your own data. If I had to start anew, I would probably use Elgg, and recommend it to all my friends.

In terms of wikis, I&#039;ve tried a few, and am currently checking out a very different one - http://www.tiddlywiki.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like squidoo as a resource on a single topic. Perhaps we could find a way to build a collaborative squidoo site or at least link to each other. I could do with some help on squidoo as it&#8217;s just a sideline for me.</p>
<p>I find that the easiest aggregator to use on a personal basis is Bloglines.  You can always export your OPML file to another system if you don&#8217;t like this web-based aggregator.</p>
<p>Not sure about delicious, as I started with Furl and now have over 600 articles Furled. Like you, I haven&#8217;t really got into tagging.</p>
<p>I think that Elgg is a great system, but unless you host your own system, you&#8217;ll have to use their free service. This is OK until you get to a point, with several hundred posts, when you want to own your own data. If I had to start anew, I would probably use Elgg, and recommend it to all my friends.</p>
<p>In terms of wikis, I&#8217;ve tried a few, and am currently checking out a very different one &#8211; <a href="http://www.tiddlywiki.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.tiddlywiki.com/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Incidentally&#8230; by loretta</title>
		<link>http://infomlbunyipau.wordpress.com/2006/03/13/incidentally/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>loretta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great paper.  I think I had read some of Gerry&#039;s work before . . . a while back.  My preferred means for online collaboration is asynchronous since it encourages action/reflection learning.  Thursday I am meeting with Stephen Brookfield to explore how we might blend his course on Discussion as a Way of Teaching.  Would be interested in which of the technologies from the unworkshop would be suitable to that project in your mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great paper.  I think I had read some of Gerry&#8217;s work before . . . a while back.  My preferred means for online collaboration is asynchronous since it encourages action/reflection learning.  Thursday I am meeting with Stephen Brookfield to explore how we might blend his course on Discussion as a Way of Teaching.  Would be interested in which of the technologies from the unworkshop would be suitable to that project in your mind.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Blog Tour by Jay Cross</title>
		<link>http://infomlbunyipau.wordpress.com/2006/03/07/the-blog-tour/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay Cross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that was the Grand Tour. You banged on the doors of some of my favorites. Nancy (&quot;choconancy&quot; on line) is a mover and a shaker; she frequently does stuff with Etienne Wenger: but she&#039;s more clear. At T+D, Rex is trying hard but not firing on all cylinders; I couldn&#039;t find the article on cover boy Tom Peters and I do have a subscription. 

eLearningCentre is great, one of my all time favorites. Jane and I have become fast friends. As soon as this unworkshop ends, we&#039;re going to meet in Barbados. Not as suspicious as it sounds; her new husband will be there, too.

Kolabora is one of many outlets of Robin Good (AKA Luigi Cardinali). Godfrey Parkin is a trip; we see eye-to-eye on many things. elearnopedia is your tax dollars at work, a spinoff of the ADL Co-Lab, a DoD thing. Oh, sorry, not &lt;i&gt;your&lt;/i&gt; tax dollars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that was the Grand Tour. You banged on the doors of some of my favorites. Nancy (&#8220;choconancy&#8221; on line) is a mover and a shaker; she frequently does stuff with Etienne Wenger: but she&#8217;s more clear. At T+D, Rex is trying hard but not firing on all cylinders; I couldn&#8217;t find the article on cover boy Tom Peters and I do have a subscription. </p>
<p>eLearningCentre is great, one of my all time favorites. Jane and I have become fast friends. As soon as this unworkshop ends, we&#8217;re going to meet in Barbados. Not as suspicious as it sounds; her new husband will be there, too.</p>
<p>Kolabora is one of many outlets of Robin Good (AKA Luigi Cardinali). Godfrey Parkin is a trip; we see eye-to-eye on many things. elearnopedia is your tax dollars at work, a spinoff of the ADL Co-Lab, a DoD thing. Oh, sorry, not <i>your</i> tax dollars.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Blog Tour by Harold Jarche</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harold Jarche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 12:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good tour. Many of these are in my own aggregator (http://www.bloglines.com/public/Harold). I&#039;ve also set up an abridged learning aggregator on SuprGlu (http://jarche.suprglu.com/)

I don&#039;t know how I would keep up to date without an aggregator. So far, Bloglines works for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good tour. Many of these are in my own aggregator (<a href="http://www.bloglines.com/public/Harold)" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloglines.com/public/Harold)</a>. I&#8217;ve also set up an abridged learning aggregator on SuprGlu (<a href="http://jarche.suprglu.com/" rel="nofollow">http://jarche.suprglu.com/</a>)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how I would keep up to date without an aggregator. So far, Bloglines works for me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hello world! by cousinagam</title>
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		<dc:creator>cousinagam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter, my own opinion is that &quot;Web 2.0&quot; is more of a figure of speech than an actual platform or set of standards.  There&#039;s a close-enough-is-good-enough spirit to some of this stuff, and so it&#039;s not always easy to do what you want.  Sometimes that&#039;s because the developers (especially in loose-knit groups) wanted to do other things, or at least different things.

In the short run there&#039;s probably no good alternative to knowing a little HTML, though you can try and acquire that in small doses.

Trust me, I am not even a power user, let alone an expert.  I found it helpful to learn a little about the code so I could understand the results that software like Dreamweaver accomplished.  It&#039;s a lot like knowing how to touch-type; not an essential skill but not one to avoid.

I see an analogy with Front Page, a Microsoft application that lets people create web pages without knowing hardly any HTML.  The problem, from the technical side, is that FP tends to load up the code with stuff you don&#039;t really want, and many hosting services don&#039;t want to put up the pages since they require (or at least used to require) a dedicated server.

For me, all my life, my goals have affected what I choose to learn (as opposed to the things I&#039;ve been required to learn).  So I got out of Latin class in order to learn French; I skipped ahead in my teach-yourself-guitar book so I could learn bar chords so I could play the song I &lt;i&gt;wanted&lt;/i&gt; to play; and I hopped around in Alan Levine&#039;s excellent HTML tutorial (http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/tut/) because I had a mental image of the pages I wanted to build.

My Cousin Agam Fhéin site was my first experience with a blog, and I kept fiddling with things because I didn&#039;t want the usual blog format.  I&#039;m still tinkering, but it now has all the basic features I first sketched out on a sheet of paper.

I found it helpful when I started with HTML to remind myself that there were thousands of 10-year-olds with their own web sites.

 - Dave Ferguson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, my own opinion is that &#8220;Web 2.0&#8243; is more of a figure of speech than an actual platform or set of standards.  There&#8217;s a close-enough-is-good-enough spirit to some of this stuff, and so it&#8217;s not always easy to do what you want.  Sometimes that&#8217;s because the developers (especially in loose-knit groups) wanted to do other things, or at least different things.</p>
<p>In the short run there&#8217;s probably no good alternative to knowing a little HTML, though you can try and acquire that in small doses.</p>
<p>Trust me, I am not even a power user, let alone an expert.  I found it helpful to learn a little about the code so I could understand the results that software like Dreamweaver accomplished.  It&#8217;s a lot like knowing how to touch-type; not an essential skill but not one to avoid.</p>
<p>I see an analogy with Front Page, a Microsoft application that lets people create web pages without knowing hardly any HTML.  The problem, from the technical side, is that FP tends to load up the code with stuff you don&#8217;t really want, and many hosting services don&#8217;t want to put up the pages since they require (or at least used to require) a dedicated server.</p>
<p>For me, all my life, my goals have affected what I choose to learn (as opposed to the things I&#8217;ve been required to learn).  So I got out of Latin class in order to learn French; I skipped ahead in my teach-yourself-guitar book so I could learn bar chords so I could play the song I <i>wanted</i> to play; and I hopped around in Alan Levine&#8217;s excellent HTML tutorial (<a href="http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/tut/" rel="nofollow">http://www.mcli.dist.maricopa.edu/tut/</a>) because I had a mental image of the pages I wanted to build.</p>
<p>My Cousin Agam Fhéin site was my first experience with a blog, and I kept fiddling with things because I didn&#8217;t want the usual blog format.  I&#8217;m still tinkering, but it now has all the basic features I first sketched out on a sheet of paper.</p>
<p>I found it helpful when I started with HTML to remind myself that there were thousands of 10-year-olds with their own web sites.</p>
<p> &#8211; Dave Ferguson</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hello world! by Mr WordPress</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr WordPress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2006 14:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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